Talk:Smithing/@comment-114.121.157.109-20150602070622/@comment-1.64.247.139-20150602074604

Ahh I feel sorry for you! My luck in smithing is bad too so I mostly focus on grinding maps..I got jirou on map 5-3 (he drops in every node so worth trying there)and hotaru in 5-4 i got both atsu and hirano through smithing all 50 you can try all 150 for them too, you can probably get them within 10 times im lacking the special tachis and kogi/jiji too but i kinda take it easy now maybe you can try changing your playing pattern/stop for a while and maybe the system will give you a surprise!! good luck!!