Talk:Memory of Sengoku/@comment-31.33.217.53-20150218113303

2 of them are Takeda clan battles, but there is a obvious biais for the Tokugawa - Oda faction. They probably used the most "famous" (those who are shown in medias and known even by japanese drop-out).

While in fact, the most representatives battles of Sengoku period would be the Onin War, Shimazu clan vs Ryuzoji clan (Ryuzoji's lord was beheaded old fashioned way by a Satsuma retainer) and of course, the 4th Kawanakajima battle, bloodiest battle in the Japanese History (prior WWII at least). Satsuma conquest of Ryukyu Kingdom was geat too, but not samurai vs samurai.

Nagashino is not bad, but Oda clan propaganda makes it suck terribly. It says Oda forces stood there lines with continuous fire, but in fact, they didn't. They say despite facing anihilation, Takeda cavalry continued to charge like no-brainer, but it was not like that. 2 of the 3 lines of the Oda clan were butchered by the Takeda troops. It's the third line who stood and managed to win the battle in the way it is described traditionaly, which is actually war time propaganda of Nobunaga.

Nobunaga's true tactical innovation was not the continuous arquebusier fire bullshit, but the trenchée like tactic hundreds of years before the First World War. Multiple layers of guns and spears, not just 2. But even with that, Takeda samurai truly managed to pierced trough 2 of the 3 lines !

Omigoto ! Bravo ! Takeda clan, the greatest warriors in Japan !