Talk:Midare Toushirou/@comment-26486269-20160613021254/@comment-31.33.217.53-20160617085115

In the medieval period, their was a false belief that homosexuality had been introduced in Japan by Buddhist monks.

Thus it happened that older monks took "care" of younger initiates, since such relationship with women was traditionaly forbiden (although not entirely), yet, doing it with men, or worse, with Bi-shônen, amount to the same in the end, because it has the same roots in delusion. Thus, it is impossible that Shôtoku Taishi, Kûkai Kôbô Daishi and cie introduced it or made a custom of it : I explain this in order to protect their distinguished reputation. Yet, it is said by some that Kantô Kanrei Uesugi Danjô-no-Taihitsu Taira-no-Kagetora Kenshin-nyudô had been a lover of men. In fact, lord Kenshin was the young lord of a very faithful (ie. fanatical bigots) population, in order to unify it he had to become a saint of sort, a living god that would gain admiration throughout Ten'ka.

And he did.

In order to abide to this, Kenshin-kô didn't slept with women nor had mistress or waifu. It is thought as dubious by some people that lord Kenshin never had sex ; I admit this is a reasonable position, yet, jumping to conclusion is a bad idea (jumping like this, one could fall on a trap such as Midare Tôshirô...). In the Sengoku period, battlefields were more fierce than in previous periods. Women were hence more rare on the battlefields, except sieges (since Naginata bitches could be used as reserve troops... :p). Hence, many military commanders (Sengoku Bushô) took Page boys with them, to form them as samurai, much like what Buddhist monks did with them ; prior the introduction of Ryû-ha Bujutsu, this method as well as the "Ishi-Sôden" were the common method of teaching martial arts and samurai behavior and practice. Some (but not all, since it was not mandatory) had sex with them. Uesugi Kenshin seems to have had quite a lot of pages, one of them having been Naoe Kanetsugu, who is believed to have been secret the bastard of Kenshin, theory developped in the infamous Gifu Dôdô. Since, as I explained, Kenshin needed to behave "perfectly", that he was a very honorable (always kept his word, treated ladies well despite not fucking them, had no territorial ambition, came to Kyôtô in order to bow to the Emperor and pledge his loyalty...) and serious man ; it is unlikely that he gathered pages to "fuck them all". It was probably part of his ploy to increase his charisma : having a lot of young samurai around him and taking him as an exemple, and then returning to their families, could not help but increased his charisma. As proof of it, Kenshin was famous throughout Japan at 18 years old ; and less than 20 years after his death, all samurai saw him as a role model, or even dreamed of being Uesugi Kenshin. If we admit the possibility that he had one or multiple bastards, it is possible that Kenshin hide some of them among his Page boys, in order to raise his children in secret and then grant them a position of retainers : this is what he did in Gifû Dôdô, yet, the same manga does not consider it a betrayal of his vows because he saw himself as the avatar (kesshin) Bishamon-Ten while the woman he consorted with was the incarnation of Bishamon's waifu, hence not sin per se. It is also known some Miko who practiced Shamanic ecstasy were also prostitute (Japanese equivalent of the old Italian nun fetish, I guess), having sex with them allowed communion with the divine (since they are possessed by the kami). Not all Miko or Buddhists nuns were prostitutes, obviously, since Miko are often said to need protect their chastity in order to develop spiritual powers. But it may be how Kenshin saw it, if he fucked a woman he loved.

Like the sages who introduced Buddhism in Japan, I took the time to explain all that boring stuff in order to protect their reputation about a subject matter who spell controversy, even in Japan. I thank you for your patience in reading this, as well as other FUCKING LONG comments that I posted elsewhere on this wikia. ;)

So... what I really wanted to say is this : one generation latter, lord Uesugi Kagekatsu was driven to have a huge pretty boyz harem, because of his fanboyism for Kenshin.

One could say Kagekatsu was the first Pedobear, and that guy on twitter (mentionned by Ksiakrv)''' is his reincarnation. '''x)